"Frequent virulent misogyny" in the Fathers? Well the Fathers wrote a huge amount. I can't recall much that would be misogynistic -- maybe something in Tertullian's flamboyant piece on women's adornme
Interesting discussion. Today is MOTHER's day. Many hold dear the values our mothers brought to our upbringing. No-one more than the Vatican says how valuable the WOMAN is in child rearing, yet in
Shaun, parts of the institutional Church might be a bit of a mess just now but you know we are also "the church". There is still hope. Thank God, for example, for the ACP and its the vision of church
Shaun
I would first of all invite you to perhaps reflect a little more on some of what you wrote. In your first paragraph you stated:
“Every organisation on earth has rules and disciplinary procedur
I don't really care. It's just one thing after another after another in the modern train-wreck Church. Our Lord is surely looking on in complete dismay at everything that is going on. George, I post a
John, you say,'This teaching says that women are not fully redeemed by Jesus'.
Fully redeemed? We're not redeemed at all, if you go by what those men who say the Creed repeat daily.
Jesus was a Jew to
Shaun, you have got this completely wrong and George is correct in what he has said to you. My information is that Tebartz-van Elst admitted to two counts of perjury in November last year. So, how can
Shaun, very selective of you and the tiny little matter of the €20,000 fine for perjury you happen to overlook.
I have researched this story very well, perhaps you need to revisit your own 'research
Those arguing against the ordination of women often have recourse to Church Tradition. Anyone reading the writings of the 'Fathers of the Church' (what! no Mothers?)must surely be horrified at their f
Con,
I've just reordered her book, after lending it out ... It is a well written book, and her argument is clearly set out. I would recommend it to all!
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Fr. John Shea repeats call for explanation of Church’s opposition to women’s ordination
March 25 2014"Frequent virulent misogyny" in the Fathers? Well the Fathers wrote a huge amount. I can't recall much that would be misogynistic -- maybe something in Tertullian's flamboyant piece on women's adornme
Fr. John Shea repeats call for explanation of Church’s opposition to women’s ordination
March 25 2014Interesting discussion. Today is MOTHER's day. Many hold dear the values our mothers brought to our upbringing. No-one more than the Vatican says how valuable the WOMAN is in child rearing, yet in
German Bishop Franz-Peter Tebartz-van Elst dismissed by Pope Francis
March 26 2014Shaun, parts of the institutional Church might be a bit of a mess just now but you know we are also "the church". There is still hope. Thank God, for example, for the ACP and its the vision of church
Longtime peace activist removed from ministry after concelebrating Mass with woman priest
March 28 2014Shaun I would first of all invite you to perhaps reflect a little more on some of what you wrote. In your first paragraph you stated: “Every organisation on earth has rules and disciplinary procedur
German Bishop Franz-Peter Tebartz-van Elst dismissed by Pope Francis
March 26 2014I don't really care. It's just one thing after another after another in the modern train-wreck Church. Our Lord is surely looking on in complete dismay at everything that is going on. George, I post a
Fr. John Shea repeats call for explanation of Church’s opposition to women’s ordination
March 25 2014John, you say,'This teaching says that women are not fully redeemed by Jesus'. Fully redeemed? We're not redeemed at all, if you go by what those men who say the Creed repeat daily. Jesus was a Jew to
German Bishop Franz-Peter Tebartz-van Elst dismissed by Pope Francis
March 26 2014Shaun, you have got this completely wrong and George is correct in what he has said to you. My information is that Tebartz-van Elst admitted to two counts of perjury in November last year. So, how can
German Bishop Franz-Peter Tebartz-van Elst dismissed by Pope Francis
March 26 2014Shaun, very selective of you and the tiny little matter of the €20,000 fine for perjury you happen to overlook. I have researched this story very well, perhaps you need to revisit your own 'research
Fr. John Shea repeats call for explanation of Church’s opposition to women’s ordination
March 25 2014Those arguing against the ordination of women often have recourse to Church Tradition. Anyone reading the writings of the 'Fathers of the Church' (what! no Mothers?)must surely be horrified at their f
Fr. John Shea repeats call for explanation of Church’s opposition to women’s ordination
March 25 2014Con, I've just reordered her book, after lending it out ... It is a well written book, and her argument is clearly set out. I would recommend it to all!
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