There would be little to be gained by swapping texts with Joe O'Leary
- although the two Church Fathers he mentions would seem, to put it mildly, to have problems with women and sexuality. I would, h
Joe O'Leary@19 - thanks for the brea(d)th of sanity and the depth of your commentary. Indeed it is those "florilegia of Google quotes" - that's a phrase I'll make use of anon but not anonymously - tha
I never gave the matter a thought until those who oppose women priests started setting out their reasons for being opposed. I found their arguments deficient.
The trouble is that these questions of church order touch directly on the sacraments. The church just cannot countenance Eucharists that are not validly celebrated.
"Frequent virulent misogyny" in the Fathers? Well the Fathers wrote a huge amount. I can't recall much that would be misogynistic -- maybe something in Tertullian's flamboyant piece on women's adornme
Interesting discussion. Today is MOTHER's day. Many hold dear the values our mothers brought to our upbringing. No-one more than the Vatican says how valuable the WOMAN is in child rearing, yet in
Shaun, parts of the institutional Church might be a bit of a mess just now but you know we are also "the church". There is still hope. Thank God, for example, for the ACP and its the vision of church
Shaun
I would first of all invite you to perhaps reflect a little more on some of what you wrote. In your first paragraph you stated:
“Every organisation on earth has rules and disciplinary procedur
I don't really care. It's just one thing after another after another in the modern train-wreck Church. Our Lord is surely looking on in complete dismay at everything that is going on. George, I post a
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Fr. John Shea repeats call for explanation of Church’s opposition to women’s ordination
March 25 2014There would be little to be gained by swapping texts with Joe O'Leary - although the two Church Fathers he mentions would seem, to put it mildly, to have problems with women and sexuality. I would, h
Fr. John Shea repeats call for explanation of Church’s opposition to women’s ordination
March 25 2014Joe O'Leary@19 - thanks for the brea(d)th of sanity and the depth of your commentary. Indeed it is those "florilegia of Google quotes" - that's a phrase I'll make use of anon but not anonymously - tha
In tribute to Fr Anthony J Butler RIP
October 20 2014hi, fr. Anthony how nice to read memories of good old Dublin.
Fr. John Shea repeats call for explanation of Church’s opposition to women’s ordination
March 25 2014I never gave the matter a thought until those who oppose women priests started setting out their reasons for being opposed. I found their arguments deficient.
Longtime peace activist removed from ministry after concelebrating Mass with woman priest
March 28 2014The trouble is that these questions of church order touch directly on the sacraments. The church just cannot countenance Eucharists that are not validly celebrated.
Fr. John Shea repeats call for explanation of Church’s opposition to women’s ordination
March 25 2014"Frequent virulent misogyny" in the Fathers? Well the Fathers wrote a huge amount. I can't recall much that would be misogynistic -- maybe something in Tertullian's flamboyant piece on women's adornme
Fr. John Shea repeats call for explanation of Church’s opposition to women’s ordination
March 25 2014Interesting discussion. Today is MOTHER's day. Many hold dear the values our mothers brought to our upbringing. No-one more than the Vatican says how valuable the WOMAN is in child rearing, yet in
German Bishop Franz-Peter Tebartz-van Elst dismissed by Pope Francis
March 26 2014Shaun, parts of the institutional Church might be a bit of a mess just now but you know we are also "the church". There is still hope. Thank God, for example, for the ACP and its the vision of church
Longtime peace activist removed from ministry after concelebrating Mass with woman priest
March 28 2014Shaun I would first of all invite you to perhaps reflect a little more on some of what you wrote. In your first paragraph you stated: “Every organisation on earth has rules and disciplinary procedur
German Bishop Franz-Peter Tebartz-van Elst dismissed by Pope Francis
March 26 2014I don't really care. It's just one thing after another after another in the modern train-wreck Church. Our Lord is surely looking on in complete dismay at everything that is going on. George, I post a
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